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Transformative Principal: Building Accountability Through Key Responsibility Areas with Will Parker

In this vault episode of Transformative Principal, recorded during the Transformative Leadership Summit, host Jethro Jones interviews Will Parker, a high school principal from northeastern Oklahoma, about implementing KRAs (Key Responsibility Areas) in schools. Will shares how he adapted Dave Ramsey's organizational management concept to create clarity and accountability for all staff members—from secretaries and counselors to administrators. The conversation explores how defining specific responsibility areas upfront prevents confusion, enables cross-training, improves hiring processes, and creates a supportive environment where everyone understands their role. Will emphasizes that KRAs are living documents revisited annually, helping schools manage organizational structure effectively, especially during transitions like budget cuts or staff changes.

Best of The Authority: AI with Intention featuring Tony Frontier

In this "Best Of" episode, I spoke with Tony Frontier about his book AI with Intention: Principles and Action Steps for Teachers and School Leaders (ASCD). In one of our most popular conversations from last year, you'll hear about:On the topic of AI and education, what is important for educators to keep in mind about what has changed and what remains the same?Tony’s greatest fear and greatest hope about how AI will change educationEssential Question: How can teachers and students use AI tools to support intentional teaching and learning?Most important guiding principles that challenge teachers to think more clearly about what has changed and what is the sameEssential Question for Leaders: How can leaders build capacity to ensure AI tools are used to effectively support intentional teaching and learning?Read Tony’s Educational Leadership article, “Active Learning, Not Passive Compliance”Get the book AI with Intention from ASCD or wherever you get your books.About today’s guestTony Frontier, PhD is an award-winning educator who works with teachers and school leaders nationally and internationally to help them prioritize efforts to improve student learning. With expertise in classroom assessment, student engagement, curriculum development, meaningful feedback, technology integration, and strategic planning, Frontier emphasizes a systems approach to empower leaders and teachers to serve others.As a former classroom teacher in Milwaukee Public Schools, an Associate High School Principal, the Director of Instruction for the Whitefish Bay School District, and a college professor who taught PhD candidates statistics, research, and learning theory, Frontier brings a wealth of experience as a classroom teacher, building administrator, central office administrator, and researcher to his workshops, writing, and research.About the hostRoss Romano is a co-founder of the Be Podcast Network and CEO of September Strategies, a coaching and consulting firm that helps organizations and high-performing leaders in the K-12 education industry communicate their vision and make strategic decisions that lead to long-term success. Connect on Bluesky or LinkedIn 

Is AI Literacy the New Professional Credential? - Anna Zendall

In this episode, Priten speaks with Anna Zendell, a social worker turned educator who oversees healthcare management, human services, and wellness programs at Bay Path University, about what it takes to rebuild a curriculum around AI when the stakes are patient outcomes. Zendell is currently piloting an AI-enhanced program from the ground up, designing courses where a closed AI system mentors students through interactive activities while faculty retain grading authority and instructional presence. The conversation covers why traditional learning outcomes don't translate cleanly into AI-driven instruction, how adult learners in healthcare face unique pressure to acquire AI literacy for careers that already demand it, and the trust gaps between students, faculty, and administrators that complicate adoption.Key Takeaways:Curriculum doesn't absorb AI -- it has to be rebuilt for it. Zendell found that standard learning outcomes written with Bloom's Taxonomy are too broad for an AI system to use as mentoring scaffolds. Her team breaks each outcome into granular component steps, essentially teaching the AI how to guide a student the way an experienced instructor would.AI is the first classroom technology to split faculty, students, and administration into opposing camps. Some faculty add zero-tolerance rubric rows while others experiment eagerly. Students range from uneasy to already reliant. Zendell describes a three-way perception gap she hasn't seen with any previous technology, including the transition to online learning.Healthcare employers aren't waiting for higher ed to figure this out. Zendell regularly scans job postings for healthcare leadership roles and finds AI literacy and AI tool proficiency appearing with increasing frequency, particularly in informatics, clinical data analytics, and healthcare finance. Her students are asking for these skills and feeling the urgency themselves.A student tester changed the entire design process. Zendell recruited an informatics student with an interest in healthcare AI to take each module as a learner before it goes live. That feedback loop -- where the student flags where prompts mislead or where the AI drifts into unproductive territory -- became central to how the team iterates on course design.The real danger isn't AI itself -- it's losing the habit of questioning it. Zendell's deepest concern is dependency: that convenience erodes the capacity to critically evaluate AI output. In healthcare especially, where students might default to ChatGPT instead of dedicated clinical interfaces, the gap between accessible and appropriate matters.About Anna ZendallAnna Zendell is the program director for the MS in Healthcare Administration program. For over a decade, she has directed degree programs in healthcare administration, health sciences, and public administration. She teaches regularly at the graduate and undergraduate levels. A major emphasis is on ensuring equitable and accessible higher education for students of all abilities by leveraging the power of online learning and the unique attributes that adult learners bring to their learning.Prior to her academic administration and teaching work, Anna oversaw operations and evaluations for grant-funded research projects focusing on issues such as walkable communities, community health education, and dementia interventions. She developed enduring interdisciplinary partnerships with organizations, local governments, and community members. She provided professional development and continuing education for healthcare professionals. Key focus areas in Anna’s work include fostering meaningful inclusion in workplaces and communities and addressing health disparities, particularly around chronic illness and health promotion.Anna earned her doctorate and master’s degrees in social work at the University at Albany with a focus on management and community systems.

Beyond the Title: J Alexander on Influence and the John Maxwell Journey

What does it actually mean to lead? In this episode, Dr. Dung Trinh sits down with Jay Alexander—Marine Corps veteran, author of The Humility Advantage, and leadership coach—to discuss a fundamental shift in how we view authority.J shares behind-the-scenes insights from his journey into the John Maxwell coaching community. He breaks down why leadership isn’t about the name on your door, but the influence you have on those around you.In this episode, we discuss:Influence over Authority: Why anyone, regardless of their rank or title, can be a leader.The Power of Community: How connecting with a network of growth-minded leaders transformed Jay’s own confidence and perspective.Psychological Safety: The essential ingredient for creating a workplace where people feel safe to share ideas and speak their truth.The Maxwell Philosophy: Understanding the DISC assessment and how to adapt leadership principles to your own authentic voice.Whether you are a formal manager or an aspiring influencer, this episode provides a roadmap for continuous growth and creating impact.

From The Archives: Digital Delusion with Dr. Jared Cooney Horvath

In this episode Dr. Jared Cooney Horvath and I discuss his new book; Digital Delusion and the intersection of what science knows about how we learn and the impacts of technology on that learning.LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jared-cooney-horvath-phd-med-730704b2/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jared.cooney.horvath/YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/jaredcooneyWebsite: https://www.lmeglobal.netBook: The Digital Delusion

Hosts

Jethro Jones

Jethro Jones

Host of The Authority Podcast — Expert Insights and Fresh Ideas for Education Leaders
Ross Romano

Ross Romano

Host of The Authority Podcast — Expert Insights and Fresh Ideas for Education Leaders
A Jethro Jones

A Jethro Jones

Host of Transformative Principal
Mike Caldwell

Mike Caldwell

Host of Transformative Principal