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Using Math Play to Build Language and Executive Functioning (with Clarence Ames)

We tend to think about math, literacy, language, and executive functioning as separate areas of development. But the research shows they’re much more connected than we might think. Early math skills are associated with later academic outcomes, and developing those skills draws heavily on language, vocabulary, and executive functioning. And supporting early math doesn’t have to mean formal instruction. A lot of it happens through play, conversation, books, games, and everyday routines. That’s why in episode 269 of De Facto Leaders, I talk with Clarence Ames, an early childhood development researcher and curriculum designer specializing in early math and executive function, about what the research tells us about how young children develop math skills, and what adults can do to support them. Clarence Ames has worked in Education Research, Implementation, and Policy for 15 years. He has a Master of Science in Instructional Technology and Learning Sciences from Utah State University, and a bachelor’s degree in Public Relations from Central Washington University. He is passionate about helping people develop the skills they need to become independent and self-sufficient, and his life goal is to empower students and teachers to create a system of education in which the only limitations on breadth or depth of learning are one’s own desire, passion, and motivation.  In this episode, we discuss: ✅ What research shows about the relationship between early math, literacy, vocabulary, and executive functioning. ✅ Why early math skills are associated with later academic and life outcomes. ✅ How play, books, games, and everyday routines can build math concepts without formal instruction. ✅What the research says about educational apps and screen-based learning, and why adult interaction makes a difference. ✅How parents can support early math development even if they have their own math anxiety. In this episode, I mention the Task Execution and Planning Protocol, which gives school clinicians an intervention strategy that takes students from “demand avoidance” and prompt dependence to independence during daily academic and functional tasks.  You can learn more about the Task Execution and Planning Protocol here: https://drkarendudekbrannan.com/taskexecution   In this episode, I mentioned School of Clinical Leadership, my program that helps related service providers design scalable executive functioning interventions to ensure students get the scaffolding they need across the school day.  You can learn more about the program here: https://drkarendudekbrannan.com/clinicalleadership

A Parent's Guide to Curiosity-Driven Learning with Christine Braun

In this episode, Eric Makelky continues his conversation with Christine Braun, Chief Creative Officer at Cresconova Labs, digging deeper into how families can apply the Labs framework at home. Christine shares practical, low-cost ways to teach concepts like geometry and systems thinking through kids' existing interests—from tessellation patterns in fashion, sports jerseys, and Lego architecture to a "moss safari" microorganism project using nothing more than a microscope and backyard moss. She emphasizes teaching kids to ask open-ended questions, always verify AI-generated information, and keep an engineering notebook to document their learning journey and build a portfolio. 

Digital Captives: Reclaiming the Human Side of Teaching

Summary In this from-the-archives episode, Bart Hoffman interviews Dr. Frank Rodriguez and Gene Tavernetti about their book Digital Captives: Helping Schools Strike a Balance Between Humans and Hardware. They trace how technology moved from a tool intended to augment instruction into something that can displace attention, relationships, reading, and meaningful learning. Frank and Gene discuss what they have observed in schools and after-school programs, why the pandemic accelerated existing problems, and how educators can respond without swinging from unquestioned technology adoption to an equally unhelpful rejection of digital tools. Their central message is practical: schools need intentional systems that put humans, learning, and healthy technology habits back at the center. Chapters 0:00 — Introduction: from digital natives to digital captives 2:17 — What changed for students and schools 6:00 — When technology stopped augmenting instruction 10:27 — The problem of too much digital material 14:09 — Finding balance between humans and hardware 18:00 — Adult modeling, attention, and schoolwide systems 23:18 — Practical ways schools can reset technology habits 26:00 — Screen inferiority and reading comprehension 31:30 — Rebuilding conversation, focus, and human connection 38:00 — Leading change without creating another pendulum swing 47:56 — The book, the authors, and where to learn more 60:30 — Closing thoughts Show Notes Dr. Frank Rodriguez — Educator and leader of after-school and community learning programs whose work with students and staff helped prompt the research behind Digital Captives. Gene Tavernetti — Host of Better Teaching and co-author of Digital Captives. Bart Hoffman — Education leader and friend of the podcast who conducts the interview. Digital Captives: Helping Schools Strike a Balance Between Humans and Hardware is written by Frank Rodriguez, Donna Smith, and Gene Tavernetti. Learn more about the authors and the book through Schools Next. This is a refreshed from-the-archives presentation of Better Teaching episode 90.

From Silos to Systems: New Jersey's CITES Journey

How do districts create lasting change instead of launching one more initiative? Leaders from New Jersey and Ramsey Public Schools share how the CITES Framework helped them slow down, assess their current reality, build a shared vision, and strengthen collaboration across departments. This conversation highlights leadership lessons, unexpected "aha" moments, and practical strategies for creating inclusive technology ecosystems that improve access, participation, and outcomes for all learners. Transcript Resources: CITES Framework  AT Act Programs

Hugging Porcupines with Mike Anderson - Transformative Principal Simulcast

Recorded live at ISTE 2026, Transformative Principal host Jethro Jones sat down with Mike Anderson to discuss his new book, Hugging Porcupines: Month-by-Month Strategies to Support Our Most Challenging Students. The episode was recorded as a simulcast for Transformative Principal and The Authority. They explore why some students disengage, resist connection, and act out — and how teachers can respond with strategies built on the "three-legged stool" of academic engagement, respectful discipline, and positive relationships. The conversation covers building classroom rules collaboratively, the difference between consequences and punishments, and why problem-solving conferences (not just sending kids to the office) are key to real behavior change. Mike was previously a guest on episode 12 of The Authority, discussing his book Tackling the Motivation Crisis. 

Hosts

Jethro Jones

Jethro Jones

Host of The Authority Podcast — Expert Insights and Fresh Ideas for Education Leaders
Ross Romano

Ross Romano

Host of The Authority Podcast — Expert Insights and Fresh Ideas for Education Leaders
Mike Caldwell

Mike Caldwell

Host of Transformative Principal
Barbara Flowers

Barbara Flowers

Host of Morning Motivation for Educators