Virtual learning didn’t start as a tech experiment. It started as a capacity and access solution.In this conversation, Julie Young traces the early design logic behind Florida Virtual School—what problems it was built to solve in the mid-1990s, and what that origin story still reveals about rigor, relationships, student identity, and how to design learning systems that scale.You’ll hear why the mission was never “deliver online,” but break the capacity ceiling—especially in places where schools couldn’t staff courses, couldn’t afford expansion, or literally didn’t have rooms to add sections. Key Ideas and Moments1) “Virtual delivery was the means, not the mission.”Julie frames FLVS as a response to overcrowding, teacher shortages, and unequal course access—not a fascination with the internet.2) The AP “try it with a safety net” designAn early innovation: students could attempt AP coursework while having a built-in path back without public shame, sometimes even with the same teacher—reducing fear of failure and expanding who even tries advanced courses.3) Why some students “become a different person” onlineJulie describes how virtual learning can enable students who were failing or labeled in traditional settings to succeed because:they can move faster or slower without an audience,teachers can give more individualized attention,relationships can be built deliberately,bullying/social status pressures are reduced.4) Relationship-building as an operational system, not a vibeEarly FLVS practice emphasized front-loading relationship-building: extended calls, deep parent conversations, learning student voice through writing, and using that baseline for both instruction and academic integrity (in an era before tools like Turnitin).5) The parent’s role: support pace, don’t replace the teacherJulie is explicit that FLVS was designed with teachers responsible for learning, and parents as partners for pace, communication, and context—not as the primary instructor.6) What online makes possible in K–12 ↔ college pathwaysFrom ASU Prep Digital, Julie shares how online models remove “physical campus” and age-related barriers in dual enrollment—making authentic college coursework possible even for unusually accelerated middle school students.7) Why she wrote the book nowJulie’s book aims to capture 30 years of policy, research, mistakes, and breakthroughs—the “drama and trauma” of building an industry that many newer educators only encountered through the distorted lens of 2020.Who This Episode Is ForPolicy and system leaders shaping virtual/hybrid strategyDistrict and school leaders designing scalable online programsInstructional designers and program operators trying to make relationships reliable at scaleAnyone tired of pandemic-era assumptions substituting for real historyLinks & ReferencesJulie Young Education - https://www.julieyoungeducation.com/Julie's new book Virtual Schools, Actual Learning: Digital Education in America (with Julie Peterson and Kay Johnson)Florida Virtual School - https://www.flvs.net/Center for Interactive Learning and Collaboration - https://www.cilc.org/Learn more about Banyan Global Learning: https://www.banyangloballearning.com