In this episode of The Smarter Campus Podcast, Zach sits down with Dr. Sunaina Sharma, Assistant Professor at Brock University and longtime English educator, to explore one of the most pressing questions facing schools today: What happens when educators feel caught between the promise of AI and the realities of classroom life?Drawing on more than two decades of experience and recent research involving hundreds of secondary school teachers, Sunaina shares how the relationship between students, technology, and learning has fundamentally shifted since the pandemic. While many teachers are already using AI behind the scenes to support their work, uncertainty around policy, parent expectations, and institutional support often prevents them from bringing these conversations directly into the classroom.The episode also examines the growing "revolt" against technology in schools, where some educators are returning entirely to pen-and-paper assessments in an effort to preserve authentic learning. Sunaina challenges listeners to think beyond an either-or mindset, arguing that the real opportunity lies in creating thoughtful guardrails, meaningful professional learning, and classroom experiences that help students understand why their learning matters.For educators and leaders, this conversation is a powerful reminder that the challenge isn't simply about adopting new technologies—it's about building cultures of trust, support, and mutual respect that allow innovation to happen responsibly.

In this episode of Make It Mindful, Seth talks with Dr. Katherine M. Heavers — a high school biology teacher, evolutionary biologist, and co-author of Transforming Teaching Through Relationship-Building and Self-Reflection: Finding Our Way In — about what it actually takes to build authentic relationships in a classroom. Heavers draws on her doctoral theory of the "telling break" and 12 years of research conducted while teaching full-time to argue that the relational work great teachers do is learnable by anyone.Together, Seth and Kate explore the biology of trust — why authenticity isn't soft or sentimental, but a survival mechanism the mammalian brain has been running for 200,000 years. They talk through Kate's theory of the telling break, the moment a teacher's personal disclosure cracks open a shared space of curiosity in the room, and why that moment is at the center of learning rather than on its margins. Kate makes the case that vulnerability, emotional safety, honest feedback, and the willingness to name your own failures in front of students are all trainable skills — not personality traits — and that any teacher can be brought to them given the right conditions and inner work. The conversation ends with a genuine surprise: after three and a half years of exploring AI tools, Kate recently deleted her ChatGPT account because her teenage niece's ethics teacher changed her mind.Key topics:The telling break — what happens when a teacher steps out of instruction and becomes a person in the roomTeaching as a learnable craft vs. an innate giftThe biology of trust and why authenticity is an evolutionary strategyEmotional safety and productive struggle — how to hold both at onceSelf-reflection and inner work as professional practice, not personal disclosureConfronting bias as an ongoing relational obligationAI, cognitive offloading, and what we give up when we stop thinking for ourselvesLinks & Resources:Transforming Teaching Through Relationship-Building and Self-Reflection: Finding Our Way In — Katherine M. Heavers & Valerie Kearns, Routledge, 2024. https://www.routledge.com/Transforming-Teaching-Through-Relationship-Building-and-Self-Reflection-Finding-Our-Way-In/Heavers-Kearns/p/book/9781032798103Daring Greatly — Brené Brown (mentioned by Kate as essential reading for teachers)The Atlas of the Heart — Brené Brown (mentioned)Adam Grant and Brené Brown's collaborative content - The Curiosity Shop Podcast Grace and Frankie — Netflix series (Kate's media recommendation)"Toward a Theory of the Educational Interruption: A Conceptual Model of the Telling Break" — Katherine M. Heavers, doctoral dissertation, Rutgers University, 2012. https://rucore.libraries.rutgers.edu/rutgers-lib/37293/Guest Bio: Dr. Katherine M. HeaversDr. Katherine M. Heavers is a high school biology teacher at West Windsor-Plainsboro High School South in New Jersey and an adjunct professor in teacher education at Rutgers University and The College of New Jersey. Her work sits at the intersection of evolutionary biology, the philosophy of education, and classroom practice — she spent 12 years earning her EdD in Social and Philosophical Foundations of Education at Rutgers while teaching science full-time, developing her theory of the "telling break" along the way. She is co-author, with Valerie Kearns, of Transforming Teaching Through Relationship-Building and Self-Reflection: Finding Our Way In (Routledge, 2024).About the Host:Seth Fleischauer is the founder of Banyan Global Learning and host of Make It Mindful: Insights for Global Learning. Through Banyan, he designs live virtual programs that connect K-12 classrooms to global peers and expert facilitators — building the kind of structured, human-centered learning the podcast explores. See https://www.banyangloballearning.com/programs/global-cohorts

How do you break free from your patterns?Meet Doug Fleener!Doug helps people overcome the gap between knowing better and doing better. His powerful story of recovery and being challenged to ask, "What If" led to him developing a transformational framework that he now uses to help his clients.Doug's "What If" framework and the differences when using it in the past vs using it for future scenarios.Key Points:how interrupting automatic habits can lead to growthwhy nothing is always an option when people feel trappedfocusing on one task at hand, rather tackling multiple issuesthe significance of the pausehow the pause influences our decision-makingthe differences in outcomes when applying "What If"how autopilot takes the backseat with the "What If" frameworkwhy we obsess over clarity and the impact thereof...and so much more!Listen to the Podcast, subscribe, leave a rating and a review:Apple: Spotify: YouTube: https://youtu.be/goyl0Mn9MmU

In this episode,  Rachael Thrash — educator, author, and Senior Director at Big Bad Boo Studios — joins Mike Caldwell to challenge the gap between student voice and student ownership. With 25+ years in education, Rachel argues that GPA-gated student councils and empty surveys exclude the students who need to be heard most. Through real examples of students solving real school problems, she shows what happens when kids are given genuine agency. She also walks through her new book Let the Learners Lead, a practical toolkit for educators ready to co-create school culture with students — not just for them

Schools are under enormous pressure to produce outcomes—test scores, graduation rates, and college readiness indicators. But what happens when those outcomes become the primary lens through which we see young people?In this conversation, Alexander Kopelman, founder of the Children's Art Guild and author of For Real: Helping Children Remain Their Authentic Selves in a Limiting World, explores the messages children receive about who they're supposed to be, why authenticity matters in learning, and how educators can create spaces where students are valued not just for what they achieve, but for who they are becoming.